Good answers brother Jesse. I've been observing your interactions here & elsewhere, but kept out of it so that your attention be focussed. But just popping in here now, to make some general observations, but not necessarily seeking comments.
a. Judas' spiritual condition. I believe that none of the twelve were Christians. They may have portrayed that name (Christian) by following Jesus & being discipled by Him, but could not be considered to be Christians as defined post Acts chap 2. When Jesus sent them out to the lost sheep of Israel, He gave them power for that specific ministry & time ( Matthew 10:1-8), just as certain people in the OT received God's Spirit to accomplish their tasks ( Numbers 11:25-27; Othniel, Judges 3:10; Gideon, Judges 6:34; Jephthah, Judges 11:29; Isaiah 59:21; & many more) - none of these were permanently indwelt by the Spirit, but the Spirit was given by God for a special purpose. As you mentioned, Judas & the other eleven were all sinners, but the day would come when they would be transformed (except Judas who suicided), & do great exploits in Jesus' Name.
b. Water baptism. After the twelve (now Matthias is included here) had the Holy Spirit come upon them, and in them & baptized them with the evidence of speaking in 'unlearned' tongues, were these apostles ever water baptized? I never recall any of them writing of that event taking place in their lives. Of course, Paul did, but he was not of the twelve, as "one born out of due time", but were the twelve ever baptized in water? Jesus had left them before this time, so He couldn't do it and there was no one else that was born again at that time to do it, so I wonder what happened. Some maintain that they were definitely baptized, but there's no evidence of it, & if not baptized, then the apostles would have still baptized others. Or I've heard, that they baptized each other, which doesn't make sense as their testimony was the same. So maybe an unbaptized believer can baptize another.
Hi Teresa. When we read about God "sold them" (as in Judges 2:14; Judges 3:8; Judges 4:2; etc.), the meaning is not that God wanted to trade Israel for money or goods. Rather, that God 'gave them over, or giving the control of them to another power which is not of God'. When God handed over Israel to anyone else, Israel lost the blessings & privileges of being God's children & became vassals of gentile nations. When Israel came to her senses and repented, God in His great mercy, received them back to Himself.
Question? Judges 3:8 God sold them, for what???? Why, He sold them? I understand His anger, but what did He sell them for? God doesn't need money or anything for that matter.. What did He sell them for? I've noticed God sell them alot in next few chapters, which has raised a few questions, I try hard not to lean unto my own understanding, but this one has confused my inner being.
Isaiah 44:9 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed.
1 Chronicles 19:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Then there went certain, and told David how the men were served. And he sent to meet them: for the men were greatly ashamed. And the king said, Tarry at Jericho until your beards be grown, and then return.
Judges 3:25 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And they tarried till they were ashamed: and, behold, he opened not the doors of the parlour; therefore they took a key, and opened them: and, behold, their lord was fallen down dead on the earth.
Psalms 69:6 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Let not them that wait on thee, O Lord GOD of hosts, be ashamed for my sake: let not those that seek thee be confounded for my sake, O God of Israel.
Jeremiah 15:9 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
She that hath borne seven languisheth: she hath given up the ghost; her sun is gone down while it was yet day: she hath been ashamed and confounded: and the residue of them will I deliver to the sword before their enemies, saith the LORD.
Numbers 12:14 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And the LORD said unto Moses, If her father had but spit in her face, should she not be ashamed seven days? let her be shut out from the camp seven days, and after that let her be received in again.
Zechariah 9:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Ashkelon shall see it, and fear; Gaza also shall see it, and be very sorrowful, and Ekron; for her expectation shall be ashamed; and the king shall perish from Gaza, and Ashkelon shall not be inhabited.
3 Now these are the nations which the Lord left, to prove Israel by them, even as many of Israel as had not known all the wars of Canaan;
2 Only that the generations of the children of Israel might know, to teach them war, at the least such as before knew nothing thereof;
The Lord does not deliver Christians from all besetting sins at salvation. He leaves some for Christians to struggle with to help them learn and grow in the Lord.
Hello Jeremiah. This account that you refer to, begins at John 3:10, as Jesus continues His talk with Nicodemus. Jesus has just given him a very strange Word (or, concept): that this new spiritual re-birth from God has nothing to do with a physical re-birth. And so when Nicodemus enquires further, Jesus states, that as a master (i.e. teacher or doctor of the Law) in Israel, he should have understood & be conversant with such a Truth. He should have known of God's Spirit working upon & within many people (e.g. Numbers 27:18; Judges 3:9,10; 1 Samuel 10:9,10; Ezekiel 36:26-28; Isaiah 11:1-5); that the self-same Spirit Who could come upon people could also one day give them a new Spirit within them to worship God & live through His Power - a new life acceptable to God, even as God gave His Spirit to accomplish His Purposes in those of olden days.
Then Jesus continues to speak with Nicodemus; that what he is hearing now is coming from One Who knows & Who has seen the working of God's Spirit. And further (in John 3:13), Jesus says that there has been no one to have gone into Heaven to learn of these things & bring them to people, but only the One Who was always in Heaven & has come down from Heaven.
Jesus' Words here don't just speak of life after death, but specifically about those who did rise (whether in spirit or in the first resurrection), who did not return back to share this Truth about rebirth with them; people living now could not learn this Truth from anyone, but from the Son of Man Who is the Son of God, coming from God & bringing it to man. And Nicodemus should have understood at least a little of what Jesus was saying to him, because of his knowledge of the Scriptures.
And yes, true, there'll be a day when God will bring forth a new Earth, devoid of any stain of evil, where all of Heaven & Earth will reside ( Revelation 21:1-7), and all sinners (unrepentant, remaining enemies of God & the Cross of Christ), will only be found in the Lake of Fire (v8).
Verse 15-Jehovah God was so merciful with the wayward Israelites. When they would cry out to him for help he would send it even though they brought this trouble on themselves.
The Holy Spirit did exist & manifest itself in people prior. Genesis 1:2, Genesis 6:3, Genesis 41:38, Judges 3:10, Judges 6:3, Judges 11:29, 1 Samuel 11:6-7, 1 Samuel 16:13, 2 Kings 2:9,
1 Samuel 16:14, 1 Samuel 19:20,
There are more references. Here are some more study references. Hope this helps.
appears to be different in the manifestation unto many people at the same time with many events occurring.
Also people being able to transfer the HOLY Spirit to another seems to appear after CHRIST was resurrected from death & the grave. Acts 1, Acts 9:17,31, Acts 10:44, Acts 11:15,16, Acts 13:52, Acts 19:1-11,
PARENTS TEACH YOUR CHILDREN on John 14 - 3 years ago
Psalms 132:12
If thy children will keep my covenant and my testimony that I shall teach them, their children shall also sit upon thy throne for evermore.
Psalms 34:11
Come, ye children, hearken unto me: I will TEACH you the fear of the LORD.
Judges 3:2
Only that the generations of the children of Israel might know, to TEACH them war (prayer), at the least such as before knew nothing thereof;
Leviticus 10:11
And that ye may TEACH the children of Israel all the statutes which the LORD hath spoken unto them by the hand of Moses.
Deuteronomy 31:19
Now therefore write ye this song for you, and TEACH IT the children of Israel: put it in their mouths, that this song may be a witness for me against the children of Israel.
Titus 2:4
That they may TEACH the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children (and TEACH THEM TO PRAY)
Daniel 1:4
Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning
Deuteronomy 4:10
Specially the day that thou stoodest before the LORD thy God in Horeb, when the LORD said unto me, Gather me the people together, and I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may TEACH THEIR CHILDREN.
It is time to do the work of an evangelist in your household; to your children; no matter age.
You can back out of this room and click on the Community Link: Become a Christian
The age of accountability varies among kids. It's when they know the difference between a lie and the truth: that lying is wrong.
The Holy Ghost is called God, Jesus is God and the Father is also.
Acts 5:3-4 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to LIE to the HOLY GHOST, and to keep back part of the price of the land? ...thou hast not lied unto men, but unto GOD.
Each Person of the Godhead SPEAKS AUDIBLY in the Bible--
God the Father SAID of Jesus in Matthew 3:17 ..."This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
Jesus SAID in John 10:30, " I and my Father are one."
The Holy Ghost SAID in Acts 13:2, ..."Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them."
Genesis 1:26-27, And God said, LET US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness...So God created man in his own image, in the image of God [not angels. the "us" can only refer to God.] created he him;
In the Old Testament, we find that God has a Son ( Proverbs 30:4, Psalm 2:7-12) and a Spirit ( Isaiah 40:13, 2 Samuel 23:2, Judges 3:10, etc.).
I Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
The Godhead and salvation.
The Holy Ghost reproves us, teaches us, guides us and testifies of Jesus Christ.
John 14:26, But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, HE shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, HE shall testify of me:
Verse 12~As long as the Israelites obeyed God and did good they had his protection. We see here that because they did evil, Jehovah God took his protection away from them.
V. 31 - "And after him was Shamgar ..... who slew 600 men with an ox goad." Reminds one of Samson who slew hundreds with the jaw bone of an ass. All these Philistines, Amalekites, Canaanites, etc. were all 'types' of sin in the N.T. When you leave the Lord, then all these sins come after you - drugs, drinking alcohol, partying down ( 'down' is the right word).
Ehud, a man LEFTHANDED. This was God's plan - lefthanded men. To kill Eglon, Ehud had to get a weapon past the guards. 95 per cent of men were righthanded; so the guards searched Ehud's left side. So long Eglon.
God told the Israelites to go into the land He promised them and destroy the inhabitants thereof in each city. At first, they did as God commanded they do and killed all the people of each city they took. This seems cruel to us but God wanted to cleanse the cities that his people took by making sure that those false gods were not worshipped anymore. Then the Israelites began to really disobey God and let the people of the cities they took live and inter marry and live with them. This angered God as His chosen people, the Israelites were disobeying him .He began to withdraw His support of the Israelites and let them be conquered and in bondage as they once were in Egypt many generations before to teach them a lesson ..but they would cry out to Him and He would raise up one of them to lead them out and free them again for a while .then they would revert back to worshipping other gods again and make Jehovah angry with them again and He would withdraw from them again to teach them a lesson As long as the Israelites were in obedience to His word to them, He blessed them and was their strength ...all this tells me that we as Christians need to obey God 's holy word and keep His commandments and He will not abandon us ..but will be with us in good times and bad...
l undersatnd here that GOD Loves lsraelites so so much after all there wrong doings they cried unto the LORD and LORD had compassion on them.. what am trying to say as a child of GOD if you fall into sin unknownly we must cry for mercy and repent for all our sins because HE is the GOD of Mercy "
Disobedience doing there own ting, God got tired of it so they r paying the price, so like my self got to get in line, wen I goes wrong, and consequence r to be full filled..no matter wo wat, as Jesus says in his commandments...obey...
God delivers when we follow his principles and punishes when we don't. This is a constant reminder that if things are not well in my life I must look within to see where I am out of alignment with God.
God is consistent. His righteousness prevails regardless of the circumstances. No one disobeys God and wins His approval. God Judges and deals rightly with any sinful act as demonstrated in Judges 3.
oH YES to be more willing to serve the Lord and not self. That is the struggle.
That is why I love reading these chapters because they keep me in check about where I am at with God.
And show me how personal GOD'S WORD IS TO ME.
How relevant His word is and how true.
I think that it is a very good chapter because it teaches me that you can't just do what you want to do and not expect God to cause things to happen to you because of your disobedience.
The Lord again was desiring His people to be faithful, and thankful, in following His commandments, but they continued to be disobedient to Him, and they had to continue to be punished for it. But, because God loved His people so much,He continued to send deliverers to rescue them from the hand of their enemies. It makes me want to strive to become m0re obedient, and faithful in followingm the word and seek the will of God, and not be rebellious, trying to do my own thing. I want to seek to -please God more, and with consistency!
a. Judas' spiritual condition. I believe that none of the twelve were Christians. They may have portrayed that name (Christian) by following Jesus & being discipled by Him, but could not be considered to be Christians as defined post Acts chap 2. When Jesus sent them out to the lost sheep of Israel, He gave them power for that specific ministry & time ( Matthew 10:1-8), just as certain people in the OT received God's Spirit to accomplish their tasks ( Numbers 11:25-27; Othniel, Judges 3:10; Gideon, Judges 6:34; Jephthah, Judges 11:29; Isaiah 59:21; & many more) - none of these were permanently indwelt by the Spirit, but the Spirit was given by God for a special purpose. As you mentioned, Judas & the other eleven were all sinners, but the day would come when they would be transformed (except Judas who suicided), & do great exploits in Jesus' Name.
b. Water baptism. After the twelve (now Matthias is included here) had the Holy Spirit come upon them, and in them & baptized them with the evidence of speaking in 'unlearned' tongues, were these apostles ever water baptized? I never recall any of them writing of that event taking place in their lives. Of course, Paul did, but he was not of the twelve, as "one born out of due time", but were the twelve ever baptized in water? Jesus had left them before this time, so He couldn't do it and there was no one else that was born again at that time to do it, so I wonder what happened. Some maintain that they were definitely baptized, but there's no evidence of it, & if not baptized, then the apostles would have still baptized others. Or I've heard, that they baptized each other, which doesn't make sense as their testimony was the same. So maybe an unbaptized believer can baptize another.
They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed.
1 Chronicles 19:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Then there went certain, and told David how the men were served. And he sent to meet them: for the men were greatly ashamed. And the king said, Tarry at Jericho until your beards be grown, and then return.
Judges 3:25 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And they tarried till they were ashamed: and, behold, he opened not the doors of the parlour; therefore they took a key, and opened them: and, behold, their lord was fallen down dead on the earth.
Psalms 69:6 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Let not them that wait on thee, O Lord GOD of hosts, be ashamed for my sake: let not those that seek thee be confounded for my sake, O God of Israel.
Jeremiah 15:9 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
She that hath borne seven languisheth: she hath given up the ghost; her sun is gone down while it was yet day: she hath been ashamed and confounded: and the residue of them will I deliver to the sword before their enemies, saith the LORD.
Numbers 12:14 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And the LORD said unto Moses, If her father had but spit in her face, should she not be ashamed seven days? let her be shut out from the camp seven days, and after that let her be received in again.
Zechariah 9:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Ashkelon shall see it, and fear; Gaza also shall see it, and be very sorrowful, and Ekron; for her expectation shall be ashamed; and the king shall perish from Gaza, and Ashkelon shall not be inhabited.
3 Now these are the nations which the Lord left, to prove Israel by them, even as many of Israel as had not known all the wars of Canaan;
2 Only that the generations of the children of Israel might know, to teach them war, at the least such as before knew nothing thereof;
The Lord does not deliver Christians from all besetting sins at salvation. He leaves some for Christians to struggle with to help them learn and grow in the Lord.
Then Jesus continues to speak with Nicodemus; that what he is hearing now is coming from One Who knows & Who has seen the working of God's Spirit. And further (in John 3:13), Jesus says that there has been no one to have gone into Heaven to learn of these things & bring them to people, but only the One Who was always in Heaven & has come down from Heaven.
Jesus' Words here don't just speak of life after death, but specifically about those who did rise (whether in spirit or in the first resurrection), who did not return back to share this Truth about rebirth with them; people living now could not learn this Truth from anyone, but from the Son of Man Who is the Son of God, coming from God & bringing it to man. And Nicodemus should have understood at least a little of what Jesus was saying to him, because of his knowledge of the Scriptures.
And yes, true, there'll be a day when God will bring forth a new Earth, devoid of any stain of evil, where all of Heaven & Earth will reside ( Revelation 21:1-7), and all sinners (unrepentant, remaining enemies of God & the Cross of Christ), will only be found in the Lake of Fire (v8).
1 Samuel 16:14, 1 Samuel 19:20,
There are more references. Here are some more study references. Hope this helps.
appears to be different in the manifestation unto many people at the same time with many events occurring.
Also people being able to transfer the HOLY Spirit to another seems to appear after CHRIST was resurrected from death & the grave. Acts 1, Acts 9:17,31, Acts 10:44, Acts 11:15,16, Acts 13:52, Acts 19:1-11,
Ephesians 5:9, Galatians 3:14, Romans 8:1,
Please read the WORD of GOD,
If thy children will keep my covenant and my testimony that I shall teach them, their children shall also sit upon thy throne for evermore.
Psalms 34:11
Come, ye children, hearken unto me: I will TEACH you the fear of the LORD.
Judges 3:2
Only that the generations of the children of Israel might know, to TEACH them war (prayer), at the least such as before knew nothing thereof;
Leviticus 10:11
And that ye may TEACH the children of Israel all the statutes which the LORD hath spoken unto them by the hand of Moses.
Deuteronomy 31:19
Now therefore write ye this song for you, and TEACH IT the children of Israel: put it in their mouths, that this song may be a witness for me against the children of Israel.
Titus 2:4
That they may TEACH the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children (and TEACH THEM TO PRAY)
Daniel 1:4
Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning
Deuteronomy 4:10
Specially the day that thou stoodest before the LORD thy God in Horeb, when the LORD said unto me, Gather me the people together, and I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may TEACH THEIR CHILDREN.
It is time to do the work of an evangelist in your household; to your children; no matter age.
You can back out of this room and click on the Community Link: Become a Christian
The age of accountability varies among kids. It's when they know the difference between a lie and the truth: that lying is wrong.
Remember: YouTube is NOT a babysitter.
The Holy Ghost is called God, Jesus is God and the Father is also.
Acts 5:3-4 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to LIE to the HOLY GHOST, and to keep back part of the price of the land? ...thou hast not lied unto men, but unto GOD.
Each Person of the Godhead SPEAKS AUDIBLY in the Bible--
God the Father SAID of Jesus in Matthew 3:17 ..."This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
Jesus SAID in John 10:30, " I and my Father are one."
The Holy Ghost SAID in Acts 13:2, ..."Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them."
Genesis 1:26-27, And God said, LET US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness...So God created man in his own image, in the image of God [not angels. the "us" can only refer to God.] created he him;
In the Old Testament, we find that God has a Son ( Proverbs 30:4, Psalm 2:7-12) and a Spirit ( Isaiah 40:13, 2 Samuel 23:2, Judges 3:10, etc.).
I Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
The Godhead and salvation.
The Holy Ghost reproves us, teaches us, guides us and testifies of Jesus Christ.
John 14:26, But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, HE shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, HE shall testify of me:
That is why I love reading these chapters because they keep me in check about where I am at with God.
And show me how personal GOD'S WORD IS TO ME.
How relevant His word is and how true.
Guess how much he loves? He proves it every day.
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